Best article yet on pedophilia

The South African branch of the Huffington Post just published an outstanding article on pedophilia written by Dr. Marlene Wasserman (a.k.a. Dr. Eve), called It’s Not A Popular Subject, But The Latest Research About Paedophilia May Help Us Protect Our Kids, and I have to say, I can’t find a single fault with it.  That may be a first.  Bravo to all involved!

13 thoughts on “Best article yet on pedophilia

    1. That’s weird. It goes right to it when I click on the link. Are you sure you don’t have some setting or software that’s blocking it? Also, maybe try a different browser.

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  1. That article pretends to be oh so daring, oh so compassionate, and oh so scientific, on pedophilia (which, like the public usage of the term, is used broadly to refer to sex with anyone under 18, and which is how I’ll use it here).

    But Dr. Cantor is not the leading person doing research on pedophilia. He is the leading person doing research on pathological pedophilia, which we all know is a mere subgroup of the population. Dr. Cantor’s work would be laughable if it weren’t so dangerous, prejudicially applying the results of the criminal and mentally ill, to the rest of the population of healthy and happy minor-attracted people.

    The leading person doing research on pedophilia is (still) Dr. Rind, and he gets right to the heart of the matter, dealing with the effects of childhood sex with adults, because this is where we are told the destruction of young lives begins. This is why we need to have all this research into pedophiles in the first place, otherwise nobody would care except for some trivia at cocktail parties. And the latest analysis published online this month is below, in which he focuses on boys and men, showing that for at least this group, when full-on sex is involved, and shockingly even when the sex is regarded negatively, the life-destroying trauma is nowhere to be found.

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10508-017-1025-2

    As to scientists being “brave”… a scientist who can’t be brave isn’t worthy of the term. The history of science is full of people who were persecuted for telling the truth. That’s the job.

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  2. The article starts with a bit of a jolt:

    “No person wants to imagine children being sexual, consensually or non-consensually.”

    I think Dr Eve would do well to expend some thought and research on how she came to write such a sentence. It packs into its eleven words so much prejudice, ignorance and presumption. I mean, WTF is so bad about child sexuality?

    Imagine if it had read:

    “No person wants to imagine two men being sexual, consensually or non-consensually.”

    Who is she to speak for all of humanity, ‘humanity’ taken in its full geographical, cultural and historical extent – including societies that were not freaked out by child sexuality? I like to imagine kids being consensually sexual – but I guess I don’t count as a ‘person’.

    But I guess at least the sentence at least half-acknowledges that children can be consensually sexual.

    As for Cantor – though I acknowledge that he has educated and humanised the public somewhat on paedophilia, I consider his research as worthless. His sampling suffers, amongst other things, from Berkson’s Bias – which occurs when one studies a sub-sample of a sample – which has been selected according to quite specific variables.

    I know that that probably doesn’t make much sense – I explain it more thouroughly on my blog (https://consentinghumans.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/dr-cantor-and-the-case-of-the-missing-stigma-part-two/).

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    1. None. But a child develops along the way. Mentally and physically. Children experimenting with one another is normal, but its a different issue for an adult to engage sexually with a child, entirely.

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  3. I agree that that Dr. Eve’s statement (“No person wants to imagine children being sexual…”) is strikingly ignorant. Virtually every competent sexologist in the world has no trouble “imagining” children being sexual. See the work of Floyd Martinson, an internationally recognized expert on child sexuality. Dr. Eve’s statement is as stupid as saying “No person wants to imagine children being emotional.” Children are sexual just like they’re emotional, social, artistic, intellectual, etc. Sexuality is a natural result of evolutionary processes, just like any other aspect of human functioning, and as such, children’s sexuality develops gradually over time just like their intellectual, emotional, and other types of functioning.

    And Mari, I know it’s a common current cultural belief in western society that sex is totally different from other aspects of human functioning, but in fact there’s absolutely no psychological or sexological theory to support that belief. No one says “Children socializing, playing, or learning with one another is normal, but adults engaging with them socially, recreationally, or intellectually is destructive, predatory, or destroys their souls.” Obviously, if a child is forced to do something that they find repugnant, or if they’re humiliated or physically hurt, or made to feel that sex is evil, then it’s harmful, but if a child willingly engages in sexual behavior he or she finds pleasant (see Martinson, or the work of researchers like Rind, Savin-Williams, Sandfort, Stanley, Ulrich, Dolezal, etc.) with an adult, there’s no reason to expect it to be inherently harmful. That was the point of Lemon Pee’s post, which you replied to by ignoring the research he presented and claiming he said something about consent which he did not.

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    1. An excellent response. Unfortunately, for most people, sexuality is in a category entirely unrelated to the rest of someone’s personality or even the rest of their body. Hence, they cannot believe your argument.

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      1. Yes, unfortunately, people are ignorant, judgmental and easily frightened on the whole. I fear this is a permanent feature of humanity that cannot be entirely corrected by education.

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